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Rob Bell and the Judgmentless “Gospel”: Holy Love Wins

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By Virgil - Posted on 28 February 2011

By Trevin Wax
In 2003, I was a college student in Romania in need of some encouragement from pastors and teachers back in the U.S. An American pastor friend of mine recommended I listen to the preaching of two pastors: Rob Bell and James MacDonald. (Amazing that just eight years ago the ministries of these two men were seen as complementing each another!)

I downloaded dozens of Rob’s sermons from his early years at Mars Hill. I liked his preaching style and enjoyed his sermons from Leviticus. His most memorable message, “The Goat Has Left the Building,” ended with a powerful illustration of the truth that Christ bears our sins

Two years later, I was less impressed with Rob’s teaching. I read Velvet Elvis as charitably as I could, but I was concerned by some of Rob’s affirmations. Rob likes to ask questions that appear to lead in one direction; he then pulls back and says something more akin to Christian teaching. (The “virgin birth” section, for example.)

The last time I listened to a Rob Bell sermon was in 2006. Rob had come under criticism because some were saying he denied that Jesus is the only way to God. Answering the criticism, Rob told his congregation: Let me set the record straight. Jesus is our only way. After that, I tuned out. “Jesus is our only way?” That was Rob’s way of having his cake and eating it too. He sidestepped the question in a way designed to deflect criticism, but leave the door open for pluralism.

Is Bell a Universalist?

In 2008, I read The God Who Smokes: Scandalous Meditation on Faith by Timothy Stoner. In the book, Tim recounts a conversation with some friends about Rob’s view of people without Christ:

“Okay,” I said, “I get that it is important to listen to other ‘stories.’ I get it that other points of view need to be given dignity. And I agree. But” – and here I took a breath for dramatic effect – “at the end of the day, is Rob saying that there are other stories that can lead to God? Is he just creatively repeating that old line from the 1900′s that led to the split between liberals and fundamentalists? Does he believe, down deep, that those who sincerely follow other roads, who pursue justice and compassion, even though they reject Jesus, will be saved?”

There was the moment of silence that inevitably follows explosive verbal gambits. What I didn’t expect was the fervor of the response.

In our small coterie, there was a young man who knew Rob personally. He had been a founding member of his church, had served in leadership roles, and so was on a first-name basis with him. After that split-second of quiet, he blurted out, “Of course that’s what he believes!”

The statement was not to be derogatory. It was an affirmation...

Rob’s newest book, Love Wins, promises to tackle the heaven/hell issue. The promo video is classic Bell: provocative, edgy, designed to start discussion.

Until the book comes out, I don’t think we can accurately label Rob a “universalist.” Based on Rob’s tendency to ask edgy questions and then pull back, I expect that somewhere in the book, Rob will affirm that people who don’t want to be part of God’s kingdom won’t be forced to. In the end, Rob will land somewhere between optimistic inclusivism (most everyone will be saved) and universalism (all will be saved).

Rob’s optimistic inclusivism will lead to a redefinition of Christian teaching. I suspect that in the book Rob will redefine evangelism as telling people what is already true about them (that they are forgiven, God is not angry). Conversion will be refashioned as “coming to terms with your state of forgiveness. Salvation from God is about realizing that you don’t need to be saved from God.

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SuperSoulFighter's picture

A few years ago I discovered that I am a true Universalist, in the classic sense. I do believe that all people will eventually come to a place of reconciliation with God the Creator - in some cases after many lifetimes. I also affirm that reincarnation is a post-mortem reality for those outside of the Kingdom, and that faith in Christ is the sole means of escape from the reincarnational cycle. Thus, human souls are recycled back into the human race until they progress in their spiritual quest to the point that they are prepared to acknowledge Christ as their Sovereign God. This view resolves the question of "judgment" in the Great White Throne sense (which actually only involved the pre-AD 70 Israelites/Jews), and also the question of whether or not anyone will be tormented in "hell" for eternity. The latter place, of course, was eternally destroyed back in 70 AD (within my view) and was solely reserved as a place of torment for the Israelites/Jews who violated the Old Covenant Law and rejected their means of redemption to the point that their eternal damnation was the only option remaining to God.

I do disagree with those who believe that all people are currently, at any given moment, reconciled to God and will dwell with Him forever in glory beyond the grave. The continuing reality, in my view, is that there will always be those who are Kingdom citizens and those who are not. The former, ideally, represent God's Nature and Character to those who are outside of the Kingdom and prompt others to consider the possibilities and benefits of this kind of relationship with God (similar, in some ways, to the Old Covenant Nation of Israel and their interactions with surrounding nations and peoples).

Just a few thoughts from my corner! :D

davecollins's picture

Hey Brother, Have always enjoyed interacting with you on this site thru the years. I am also leaning in the same direction...Rob Bell's book prompted alot of questions, anyway believing that you are a student of scripture, how have you came to a belief in reincarnation? Where do you see that taught, John? Thanks and God bless, Dave

SuperSoulFighter's picture

Great to hear from you! Sorry it took so long to respond. I've always enjoyed interacting with you too over the years. I'm hoping to submit a couple of articles in the next few days here, as fresh new contributions to this site.

The whole reincarnation thing is a little thin on Scriptural support but there are some indications, I believe, that this is the case and I most certainly believe that there are no texts directly opposing this view (which might surprise some). I might address that subject a bit in relation to one of the upcoming articles.

Good to hear from you again bro!

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