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Exclusive: The Strange Witness of C.S. Lewis
Posted on Tuesday, June 29 @ 05:28:44 PDT by Charles Roberts

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In a seldom read essay titled “The World’s Last Night” the prolific Christian writer C.S. Lewis turned his learned mind to the subject of The Second Coming of Christ. As many Preterists know, he bears witness in that essay to the reality of the words of Jesus regarding the timing of His return.

His witness or testimony is a strange one, however, and is all too symptomatic of the refusal of many other learned men to deal with reality.

In the opening paragraph of his essay Lewis quotes our Lord’s words from Matthew 26:24 where He said to the leaders of the Jews: Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

And then Lewis makes this very perceptive comment, “If that is not an integral part of the faith once delivered to the saints, I do not know what is.” (Note, this and subsequent quotations are taken from The Essential C.S. Lewis, pages 383-92, Touchstone/Simon and Schuster, 1996 edition.)

Surely no one can reasonably disagree with Lewis’ assessment of the gravity of Christ’s words. Of course, the larger issue is, “What did Jesus mean when He said that?”

That C.S. Lewis seemed strangely not to know at all what Jesus meant is evidenced by his statement a few pages later wherein he imagines how the non-believer might respond to the “mistakes” of Jesus:

Lewis writes, “‘Say what you like,’ we are told, ‘the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so…He said in so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.’ And he was wrong…’” (Page 385)

Lewis immediately adds his own, very telling comment regarding Matthew 24:34, “It is certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible.

Why would C.S. Lewis write such a thing?

Because he believed that if the words are taken to mean what they clearly do mean, then, in his estimation, Christ was wrong. He made a mistake.

Lewis goes on to suggest that Matthew 24:36 provides an explanation of what appears to him as an embarrassing mistake: no man knoweth the day or the hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.

In the final pages of the essay Lewis once more demonstrates the myopia that affects more than a few who have read the words of Christ and have not understood them.

He writes, “[Christ’s] teaching on the subject [of His final advent] quite clearly consisted of three propositions. (1) That he will certainly return. (2) That we cannot possibly find out when. (3) And that therefore we must always be ready for him.” (Page 389)

One hardly knows whether to laugh or cry over such statements as these.

Here is one of the most lauded and respected Christian writers of recent history, a man of immense talent and erudition, and one who himself quoted the very words from the mouth of our Lord that prove that we can “find out when” He returned!

The thing that our Lord said no one knew was the specific day and hour of His Parousia, but that statement, taken with the other time texts, in no way means that “we cannot possible find out when.”

If a friend of mine is coming to visit me from another state and the travel plans have not been fully confirmed, I may not know the day and hour of his arrival, but I can surely know the year, the month, and even the week he will arrive.

One wonders if C.S. Lewis would have born such a strange witness to the timing of the Parousia had he been made to ponder the meaning of the following verses: Matthew 10:23; 23: 36; 24: 34; Mark 13:30; Luke 21:32; Hebrews 9:26.

It the Lord’s wise Providence, His infallible revelation to us had been given in words, words that have meaning, words that are clear, coherent, and marvelously logical.

Pictures, photos, images, and other means of communication may be open to a thousand interpretations, but words, in spite of the illogical claims of postmodernists, do not depend upon the reader for their meaning.

The meaning of “this generation shall not pass,” and the several other passages listed above, are inseparably linked to the Man who spoke or inspired them, and what He intended them to mean.

Those words were not spoken to C.S. Lewis or anyone else in the 20th or 21st centuries.

They were spoken to men of a specific time and place (a specific generation) who did not, in fact, pass away, until ALL the things our Lord foreordained came to pass, including His Parousia.

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Charles Roberts is a columnist for PlanetPreterist.com. Dr. Roberts lives in upstate NY with his family where is pastor of a Reformed church. He holds the Master of Theology and Doctor of Ministry degrees, and is currently writing a doctoral dissertation on preterism.

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Re: The Strange Witness of C.S. Lewis (Score: 1)
by Zorro on Tuesday, June 29 @ 07:18:42 PDT
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'If a friend of mine is coming to visit me from another state and the travel plans have not been fully confirmed, I may not know the day and hour of his arrival, but I can surely know the year, the month, and even the week he will arrive.'

That is a very weak analogy. Christ said he didn't know when he would return, not that he 'sorta knew' when he will return. Just as Gabriel didn't know when he would return - though that Angel knew everything about timing of 70AD. (Something he shouldn't have known if it was indeed about the final return of Christ)

Of course, the biggest problem with your analogy is that it assumes your friend showed up at all; when not a single neighbor, relative, or family member or YOU! reported him showing up.

What Josephus reported in 70AD was Christ's army in the sky saying, "Get out of there." i.e. Exactly the sort of 'gathering' up of the church by angels Christ prophesied. This was well before the actual fall of Jerusalem.

So however desperately you may need Christ's words to have passed away, they refuse to evaporate by your hand for lack of witness.

Matt 24:34 was certainly fulfilled in 70AD, we have witnesses to that, including ourselves (there is no temple and the grounds continue to be trampled upon) but Matt 25 was not fulfilled in any way, shape or form.

Christ's words have not passed away. "Be ready!" is only replaced by the most arrogant and foolhearty: "Relax, He already came!" Another gospel to be sure, preached by those who claim they know what Christ didn't and doesn't know.

That your entire theory is dependent on the nullification of Christ's words should send up a big red flag.


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Re: The Strange Witness of C.S. Lewis (Score: 1)
by NHPreterist on Tuesday, June 29 @ 07:48:34 PDT
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Zorro,

Read the passage:
MT 24:4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, `I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

MT 24:9 "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

MT 24:15 "So when you see standing in the holy place `the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand-- 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again. 22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, `Look, here is the Christ!' or, `There he is!' do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

MT 24:26 "So if anyone tells you, `There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, `Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

MT 24:29 "Immediately after the distress of those days

" `the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

MT 24:30 "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

MT 24:32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

Sounds to me that Jesus "sorta knew" the general time frame when he would return and that the return would be in the lifetime of His Apostles.
You can either believe Him, think He was mistaken, or that the Word of God is uninspired and in error. Those are your choices. To think otherwise is to be mistaken or dishonest with the text.


In His Kingdom,
Randy


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Re: The Strange Witness of C.S. Lewis (Score: 1)
by chrisliv on Tuesday, June 29 @ 11:34:16 PDT
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Yeah,

Bertrand Russell, a brilliant humanitarian, also noticed how scripture called for a complete first-century fulfillment.

Sadly, like C.S. Lewis, Russell concluded that the Bible was mistaken, and wrote his book, Why I Am Not a Christian.

Peace,
Christian


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Re: The Strange Witness of C.S. Lewis (Score: 1)
by Seeker (connections@bellsouth.net) on Thursday, July 01 @ 08:37:10 PDT
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The third option is that Matt. 24 was fulfilled in its entirety. The first resurrection did occurr. The judgement occurred and is occurring. The saints are reigning with Christ. We are in the Messianic period (which incidentally many Jews thought would last 2000 years). Who knows how long it will last.

The thousand years is definitely symbolic so the arguments about 1070 are a little silly. But it is symbolic of a long period of time. It is not symbolic of God's sovereignty because if you read the passage it tells you what will happen at the end of the 1000 years. Do you mean to tell me this will happen at the end of God's sovereignty?

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